tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13177437.post2965299461756435419..comments2024-03-23T01:31:13.502+01:00Comments on Jabal al-Lughat: A new(ish) book on the Tamazight (Berber) of TipasaLameen Souag الأمين سواقhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00773164776222840428noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13177437.post-15801069249392418352007-04-20T21:05:00.000+02:002007-04-20T21:05:00.000+02:00"This feature of th- becoming h- (hella, hamurth, ..."This feature of th- becoming h- (hella, hamurth, etc.) seems to be nearly unique to Tashawit and Tashenwit, and many other features are clearly shared."<BR/><BR/>Irish has a similar development. In Irish it is diachronic. The explanation given was that velarized 't' becomes so dental in Irish that 'th' had to go somewhere else to have a life. But the problem with that is that becomes indistinguishable from lenited 's', so that's not much of a solution. <BR/><BR/>This doesn't happen in Scottish Gaelic because the non-velarized 't' is so palatal that it leaves velarized 't' in peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13177437.post-22919708209445951122007-03-28T02:15:00.000+02:002007-03-28T02:15:00.000+02:00Especially since Tashenwit's speakers call their l...Especially since Tashenwit's speakers call their language Haqbaylith!<BR/><BR/>I've wondered about that. This feature of th- becoming h- (hella, hamurth, etc.) seems to be nearly unique to Tashawit and Tashenwit, and many other features are clearly shared. The same change applies, if I recall rightly, to the scattered Tamazight-speaking areas in Chlef, and Djebel Bissa near Tenes. Yet <A HREF="http://lughat.blogspot.com/2007/03/tamazight-near-blida-algeria.html" REL="nofollow">Blida</A>, I've heard more than once, used to have a very Kabyle-like dialect. Extrapolating from where Berber has continued to be spoken, we can imagine that before Arabic arrived, Chaoui and Chenoui must have formed part of a single Zenati area, with a dialect differing significantly from Kabyle. But I can't think of any period in Algerian history when a political boundary ran along those lines. I need to check what Ibn Khaldun says about the tribes of the two areas. Of course, people move around all the time - but who moved where?Lameen Souag الأمين سواقhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00773164776222840428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13177437.post-54513084676421025162007-03-28T01:42:00.000+02:002007-03-28T01:42:00.000+02:00Yes, extremism breads extremism! Algeria is paying...Yes, extremism breads extremism! <BR/><BR/>Algeria is paying the price for the past failed policies.<BR/><BR/>I'm amazed how easy(for shawis)to understand Tachenwit. Very much like Tashawit. How do you explain that, Lameen? I realise that Tashawit and Tachenwit belong to the zenati branch. But given the location, you would think that Taqbaylit would be the closet thing to Tachenwit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com